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General Board / Re: Importing Source Code Lotus Notes Script
« on: August 16, 2012, 12:11:27 pm »
Thanks for your repsonse Wyatt.

When the techies are back in the office, We'll have a try and I will post back my results.

Regards,

Stoppy

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General Board / Importing Source Code Lotus Notes Script
« on: August 16, 2012, 08:29:15 am »
Hi All,

Long time reader, first time posting  :)

I am just wondering if anyway has come across a requirement to reverse engineer and import Lotus Note Script into EA.

I know the file type is not supported based on this link and this has been confirmed by Sparx - http://www.sparxsystems.com/enterprise_architect_user_guide/9.3/software_engineering/reverseengineersourcecode.html

But just wondering if anyone may have devised a workaround solution.

If that fails, we'll just have to put in the hard work and workshop the business processes and do some analysis.

Regards,

Stoppy

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General Board / Re: Taking a Longgg Time to Load HTML Version
« on: August 17, 2012, 02:58:32 pm »
Hi Paula,

What happens when they use the guid for linking to the HTML model?

http://www.sparxsystems.com/enterprise_architect_user_guide/9.3/reporting/htmlreport.html

Regards,

Stoppy

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN 2.0 Task type Service
« on: January 21, 2015, 11:44:30 am »
Hi akopp,

MMA has covered of the functional steps.

I am on EA V 11.0.1105 and not experiencing your issue, could you supply more context to your problem.

Regards,

Stoppy  :D

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Sequence Flow cannot cross a pool bounda
« on: January 13, 2015, 09:22:15 am »
Hi Andy,

I can replicate your model scenario and receive the message prompt, but I would consider the prompt valid. (Good to know for future padawan modelers I may need to manage  ;D)

As I mention before, I think the layering and nesting improvements have resolved and addressed my original issue.

Even if I screw around with the pool in your scenario and do a half baked attempt to resize, the pool layers correctly, and when adding a element to the model the project browser corrects and restructures the tree.

Regards,

Stoppy  ;)

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Sequence Flow cannot cross a pool bounda
« on: January 12, 2015, 04:57:20 pm »
Hi Andy,

What version are you on?

Since my post, I have upgraded to EA Version 11.1.1112 (Corporate Edition) and have tried to replicate my scenario I originally posted and unable to get the error message.

I will say Sparx, have done a great job with layering lanes and pools and I am not wrestling with my models as much these days.  :D

Even if I physically move a sub lane out of a lane in the project browser and drag and drop a element in the lane on the model, the project browser, places the sub lane back into the lane.

I would consider the issue resolved.

Hope that helps from my end!

Stoppy  ;)

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Sequence Flow cannot cross a pool bounda
« on: July 16, 2014, 09:03:08 am »
Hi VKN,

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When I move any one of the lanes out of the Pool in the Project Browser and try my steps I receive the message.
Why do you want to do this?

Mate, I don't want to do this, but I notice this happens from time to time when diagramming, the lane will skip outside of the pool, which maybe happens on your second point.

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I thought the diagramming controlled the structural hierarchy layout of the Project Browser or do we need to keep and eye and manage our diagrams in the project browser ???

When the elements are created through the diagram, the child/parent relationship of the elements will match in the Project Browser. But, if the elements are moved around in the Project Browser then the diagram will not have any control over it.
Sounds logical to me ;)

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While creating a child element through the diagram, don't drop it on the edges of the parent element. Expand the parent element wide enough and drop the child element inwards as possible.  
Easy with simple process models and this is my current procedure. Have you noticed the lanes are sometimes hard to lay/insert in complex models, specially when you have multiple lanes???

If you got any tips would love to hear them, I find I can be wresting with lane for long periods of time, which is frustrating at times.....

Based on my original post above, clearly this not a bug then, and more application behavior and modeling rules!

Regards,

Stoppy :D

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Sequence Flow cannot cross a pool bounda
« on: July 15, 2014, 02:55:54 pm »
Hi VKN,

I think I have been able to replicate problem with some playing, I will explain my model in more detail which contains:

Pool - Our Organization
   Lane 1 - Finance
       Sub Lane 1 - Finance Officer
       Sub Lane 2 - Systems Administration
   Lane 2 - HR
   Lane 3 - IT
       Sub Lane 1 - Service Officer
       Sub Lane 2 - IT Helpdesk

When I move the any one of the lanes out of the Pool in the Project Browser and try my steps I receive the message. Do you get this too?

So I guess the questions is this a bug or normal application behaviour.

I thought the diagramming controlled the structural hierarchy layout of the Project Browser or do we need to keep and eye and manage our diagrams in the project browser ???

Once I correct the hierarchy in the project browser, I am back to the this message - http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1405380670

Regards,

Stoppy  :D

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Sequence Flow cannot cross a pool bounda
« on: July 15, 2014, 01:36:10 pm »
Hi VKN,

I am definitely not crossing the pool, as i only have one in the diagram. If you were to view my diagram from the project browser, the elements appear in this hierarchy:

Pool = Our Organization
Lane = Division
Gateway (Parallel)

When I attempt to click on the gateway and create activity this is when the message is provided.

The only way I can join the gateway to the activity is via my workaround.

I am not fully aware of BPMN 2.0 spec but this behavior does seem odd.

Could this be do with the diagram layering behavior or is it a bug?

Stoppy  8-)

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Bugs and Issues / BPMN: Sequence Flow cannot cross a pool boundary
« on: July 15, 2014, 09:44:07 am »
Hi All,

Wondering if someone can confirm this is a bug or a issue with my modelling implementation.

What am I doing:

Created a BPMN 2.0 diagram (Business Process Diagram)
The diagram has 1 pool
The diagram has 3 lanes
Two of lanes have sub lanes

What is my issue:

When I select a parallel gateway in a lane and try to join to another activity element by sequence flow I am presented with the following:

BPMN: Sequence Flow cannot cross a pool boundary

Workaround:

Add new activity element to diagram lane and join elements with sequence flow

Envirionment:
Windows 7 SP1
EA Version 11.0.1105 (Corporate Edition)
SQL 2012

Thanks in advance,

Stoppy  ;)

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Child lane in pool
« on: November 05, 2014, 01:13:38 pm »
Hi Tyas,

Yes qwerty is right, I think you should try and get an upgraded version. There have been a significant amount of improvements with EAv11 for BPMN

In the old version as a personal habit, I used to expand the pool to A3 or A4 length, then drop my lanes in and then start modeling in order to get my lanes nicely in my pools. Hope that helps.

Regards,

Stoppy :)

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Invalid hierachy level for Sequence Flow
« on: October 30, 2014, 04:36:56 pm »
Yah!!!  Just updated to EA 11.1 build (1112) and this issue has been resolved.

Thanks,

Stoppy ;)

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Invalid hierachy level for Sequence Flow
« on: July 15, 2014, 02:35:49 pm »
Thanks VKN, I have submitted a bug report to Sparx.

Regards,

Stoppy  :D

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Invalid hierachy level for Sequence Flow
« on: July 15, 2014, 01:46:54 pm »
Hi VKM.

Your right, this is my testing outcomes:
When I attempt to join a element to another element from a lane to lane - No Issue
When I attempt to join a element to another element from a lane to sub lane - Issue
When I attempt to join a element to another element from a sub lane to lane - Issue

I never had this sort of issue with BPMN 1.0 or 1.1 diagrams with EA.

Before I submit a bug, I just need someone who is familiar with BPMN Spec 2.0 to confirm this is not by design or against BPMN 2.0 spec as I have only just started to work in this space.

Regards,

Stoppy  8-)

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Bugs and Issues / Re: BPMN: Invalid hierachy level for Sequence Flow
« on: July 15, 2014, 10:40:04 am »
Hi KP,

Thanks for your reply.

My model is simple with respect to Pools and Lanes, essentially I have:
1 Pool - Our Company
3 Lanes - Our Divisions
4 Sub Lanes in 2 Lanes - Our Roles

So based on your reply I have a Bug???

Thanks for the tip about tool, did not know about that one!

Regards,

Stoppy :D

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