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Bugs and Issues / Suppressing properties by double-click.
« on: September 11, 2008, 04:24:29 pm »
As you may probably know, double-clicking an item does one of, at least, three different things - depending upon the item type and the context.

This has always been a "gotchya" for me but today I had enough!

So...  Is there any way to suppress double-click opening the properties of an item?  This will force me to use [Alt+Enter]  (except, as usual - inconsistently, EA won't always use it) to open the properties of the selected item with this shortcut.

I think this offers me the path of least inconsistency...


Bugs and Issues / Notes window update issue
« on: September 03, 2008, 06:05:50 pm »
Has anybody experienced update probels with the Notes window recently?

I used to regularly use the Notes window [Ctrl+Shift+1] to update the notes section of the item.

Recently (I suspect since the introduction of formatted Notes), there are problems with this.  If you are not careful how you click in the window, changes you make are discarded - much to one's consternation.  I've not tracked down the exact circumstances yet.

I had just spend a good 10 minutes crafting a definition of a class - a few very well chosen (and, if I may say, elegant) paragraphs only to lose it!  I said: "Aw shucks!" (or words to that effect  :o)

Now I'll have to do it again!  But first to post this...

Is it just me?  Or do others see it?  If you do, I'll report it.

BTW: anybody got the smiley on the side of the posting control to be anything but Exclaim recently?  The EAUI infection seems to be spreading...  ;)

Bugs and Issues / Set Visible Relations dialog difficult
« on: September 06, 2008, 12:13:35 am »
If you have a large number of possible edges on a diagram the Set Visible Relations [Ctrl+Shift+I] dialog is very hard to use and doesn't appear to use any common metaphors for multiple selection.

As you click in the checkbox, the selection is increased.  Now this seems innocuous enough, but if you toggle one of the already actioned entries, ALL the previously actioned entries ALSO toggle!

This is quite confusing to the user.  But the real problem is that the user can't change their mind and unaction one of the previously selected edges.

It allows mistakes to be easily made.  You often need to exist and reenter the dialog many times to achieve the desired outcome.

The dialog would be significantly improved if it used a more common metaphor.

Firstly, the selection mechanism should use the Ctrl and Shift keys only (as per normal).

There should be a select all check box with the usual function.

There should be an apply button to allow the application of the current state without leaving the dialog.

Finally, the dialog edges are sorted in a specific order.  Often it is useful to be able to group the edges you intend to action by a number of factors.  Being able to sort on: edge type (current), origin type, destination type, origin name, destination name, edge name.  It's a lot easier to locate the edges you want to action among possibly a very large number of edges that are potentially visible on the diagram.

Bugs and Issues / setpen(getUserBorderColor(),getUserPenSize());
« on: September 04, 2008, 05:51:32 pm »
If all the other bugs I've reported this week weren't enough...

as does:


puts EA into a loop from which there may be no escape...  On my machine, I have to swtich it off as there's no way to get a response...


Take care,

Bugs and Issues / Association Class destroys "Composite"
« on: September 03, 2008, 04:55:17 pm »
Before I report this a (yet another) bug.  Is anybody else experiencing this?

If you have a class marked composite (and therefore with an associated diagram), when you make the class an AssociationClass via <vertex context menu>|Advanced[ch9658]|Association Class..., the composite setting is removed.

AND... (to add insult to injury)

when you put the "composite" setting back, the:
<vertex context menu>|Advanced[ch9658]|Unlink Class and Association,
disappears to be replace by:
<vertex context menu>|Advanced[ch9658]|Association Class...which menas you can't unlink the the two.  Never mind the fact that on the diagram, the rendering clearly shows it's an Association Class, the menus don't.


you discover that the Association won't select consistently!


since there isn't a means to unlink the Class from the Association from the <edge context menu>, you're left up the creek without the proverbial paddle!

This is EAUI of the purest form...  ::)

Now lest my fellow users think I'm being too harsh... I'm NOT finding these wierd bugs by rigourously testing this product.  I'm just trying to use it to do my real job - Data Architecture!  (By the way I'm using IE notation on the diagram)

EA SERIOUSLY reduces my productivity over what it should be!

If there was anything better than EA out there I'd switch in an instant!  It is a sad indictment on our industry...  (You might gather I've had a tough time with EA this week - I actually started to use it again...)

Using EA in spite of EA not because of it...  :'(

Caveat - it may be that this is happening ONLY on my machine (hence the question at the start).  In which case I plead that the observed behaviour is only slightly stranger than the already admitted inconsistencies in EA!

Bugs and Issues / Non standard multiplicity in IE notation
« on: September 02, 2008, 11:59:31 pm »
I believe it is the normal convention in Information engineering data modelling that if there is a non-standard multiplicity, that this is indicated in addition to the normal "crows-foot" glyph.  Thus: if the multiplicity is 2..*, then one would see:

Now, I think in this world of UML, we could gainfully use:

but not the current:

What do others think?

Bugs and Issues / Reflexive assoc wrong in IE notation
« on: August 29, 2008, 02:57:45 pm »
Reflexive associations display multiplicity even in IE notation

They shouldn't.  Non-reflexive ones don't.

The whole inconsistency thing between the rendering and manipluation of reflexive versus non-reflexive relationships is beyond a joke...  Why does it have to be so hard?

Create both a non-reflexive and a reflexive association.  
Place multiplicities on both.  
Change connector notation to Information Engineering.
Observe the multiplicity rendering inconsistency.
Bug reported.


Bugs and Issues / Wrapping for multiple stereotypes
« on: September 02, 2008, 11:41:16 am »
I'm now starting to use multiple stereotypes in big way.  There doesn't seem to be a way of forcing wrapping when the list of displayed stereotypes (particularly on an edge) gets long.  The list seems treated as a single unit.

I suggest treating the comma as a wrap point.

What do others think?  If there's agreement I'll submit a suggestion.


Bugs and Issues / Shape script kills edge notation rendering
« on: September 02, 2008, 12:12:11 am »
I've reported a bug that using a shape script destroys any alternate notation (for example: Information Engineering or IDEF1X) rendering for edges.

In thinking about possible solutions to this problem, it seemed to me that part of the problem is that there is no way to say to EA - please draw the native shape.

Hang on!  There's a drawing method: drawnativeshape(); but as the documetnation says: it's not supported for edge scripts.

I think that if it was implemented for edges, it could solve a number of problems.  In particular, drawnativeshape() in the end shapes (source or target) could draw the appropriate glyphs.

It seems to me this could seriously extend the utility of shape scripts.

What do others think?


Bugs and Issues / CENTER origin in shape script inconsistent
« on: August 29, 2008, 01:14:02 pm »
shape main

Watch the preview window.

Observe how the other values move the circle (which displays as an elipse YET ANOTHER BUG!), for all the values other than CENTER moves as expected.  CENTER behaves quite differently.

If the intent is to have a position outside rest, then it should have a special name NOT center.


Bugs and Issues / Opening the Model Views Window
« on: August 26, 2008, 11:29:40 am »
For EA Help:
The Model Views window enables you to encapsulate your model into the areas you are interested in. You display the window by selecting the Views | Model Views menu option.

1) On my EA 7.1 (build 832) I don't have a Views menu.

2) On my View menu there is no Model Views item.

Can anybody tell me how to open the Model Views window?  It seems like a neat idea - I just can't use it...


Bugs and Issues / NoteLink - inconsistent with other edge types
« on: February 26, 2008, 05:26:41 pm »
I'd like to link the Notes in one element to the text of the Notes in another.  I can't do that (although it would be a neat variant of the feature linked note technology).

So I create a "NoteLink" edge between two non-Notes.  Not your usual usage, I grant you, but EA lets me do it.  This allows us to write automation that will keep the origin "in step" with the destination.

I can do most things with this NoteLink - except set the stereotype.

I CAN do this by changing the type to something else, changing the stereotype and then changing back - but this is supremely tedious.

Couldn't we just let the NoteLink be consistent with everything else?

Please enable setting of the Properties Window for NoteLinks.  (even if a global setting - off by default).


Bugs and Issues / (825) Formatted text renders inconsistently
« on: February 13, 2008, 10:06:42 pm »
If you paste some new Formatted text (from one Formatted Text control) into another, it will render correctly in the control, but will expose the underlying HTML on the diagram.

Set up "Formatted Text" (including quotes) in one box and copy and past into another - the diagram should show: &quotFormatted Text&quot


[Edit - Got caught by EAUI!  The bug is really that setting formatted notes is NOT a diagram default.  So you HAVE to remember to set each one - absolutely, uneccesairly, tedious!]

Bugs and Issues / (825) Hyperlink Notes needs formatted text
« on: February 12, 2008, 11:09:15 pm »
Caption says it all.


Bugs and Issues / (825) Paste into lists fails
« on: February 13, 2008, 10:30:56 pm »
If you paste into a new Formatted text control, the pasted text will not go into the right place:

1)    Some text
2)    More <-paste here (text = Pasted Text)

1)    Some Text
More Pasted text


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