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General Board / Re: About Domains
« on: May 24, 2018, 08:52:00 pm »
Arent these conceptual data entities? We either use the UML Class or an extended type to create a catalogue of these.  when working on


ArchiMate based Information Architecture we've used the 'Data Objects' or 'Business Objects' to catalogue these

Data Object realises a Business Object, it's much closer to a physical model than the conceptual model.

Plus, I'm just old, and I don't want to change my ways!   8)

Come now, I've met you, you are quite sprightly :-)

Visio is basically a desktop publishing application not a modelling application.  There is nothing close to syntactical checking in it.  Every diagram is an island.

When you import diagrams you end up
  • altering the diagram to follow the actual syntax of the notation
  • comparing all of the diagrams that touch the same areas trying to work out which one is the most accurate
  • trying to work out how up to date they are
  • visually reformatting everything to make it readable
  • merging x copies of the same element and trying to work out which relationships need to mve too

It's much easier and takes less time to print them all out and put a line through the elements on them when you recreate it in your model.

And it is MUCH easier to hide a connector that you can see than show a connector that you can't see. If you open a diagram and see that a new connector has suddenly appeared, that means that there is new information in the model that the person who created the diagram wasn't aware of. If it belongs in the diagram, great; if it doesn't, hide it. Better that than opening a diagram and not knowing if there is new information that may need to be shown.

That's certainly pragmatic.  The ArchiMate shapescript is probably the second or third worst in the base product, but the most worked on by your more knowledgeable customer base.  It would equally be as pragmatic to ask for their improvements and fold them into the product.

But it would indeed be a great help if a locked diagram was ... locked(!). And it should be a very minor and simple change in Sparx.

That's a diagram centric view not a model centric view.  A diagram is a representation of a number of elements in the model.  Elements that can belong to anyone, not just the creator of the diagram.

Maybe (I don't know the requirements) it would be better to create your own MDG rather than messing with existing MDGs. You can either create your own completely stand alone or you can extend an existing MDG.

I think there is a case for having a better crafted DFD MFD that among other things supports OWASP application threat models .  I've considered making it but really don't have the time.

Bugs and Issues / Re: EA 14.0: Find in Browser odd behaviour
« on: May 21, 2018, 09:35:50 am »
I don't know if you mean that ironically, but I remember well when the "new web site" was launched and things started to get worse. That's just my observation. It might well be that just the whole company went crazy (virus? aliens?) but Mad Men (never seen it, but catches my imagination the right way) was the most obvious explanation for what seemed to happen.

I think you need to take a holiday to Aussie and experience what its like.  The Sparxians are over 120km from the only spot of real culture in their entire state (and one of very few in the entire nation).  It's full of sheep, snakes, and poisonous spiders.  Where as a mad man will be wearing a fitted suit, driving a coupe, and drinking martinis, they're probably all in overly tight stubbies,  driving old utes, and drinking a beer than manages to be even worse than Grolsch.

As well as the metamodel it is explicated stated - outside of the appendices - that certain relationships can be derived.
Yes, I was looking at this yesterday to see if it could explain some of the additional relationship types in the table. If it was used that way it hasn't been applied consistently.

I don't think anyone here is going to say that the specification is the most rigorous and well defined in the world.  It's a little bit too influenced by certain tool Vendors on the ArchiMate forum.  But EA should be able to meet the benchmark that Archi sets for implementing the specification.

Unfortunately, it is currently missing some relationships because of what I would describe as a less than rigorous definition of the metamodel within the ArchiMate specification.

As well as the metamodel it is explicated stated - outside of the appendices - that certain relationships can be derived.

It is important to note that all these derived relationships are also valid in the ArchiMate language. These are not shown in the metamodel diagrams included in this standard because this would reduce the legibility of them. However, the tables in Appendix B show all permitted relationships between two elements in the language.

General Board / Re: Sparx EA V14 B 1419 Installation issue
« on: May 17, 2018, 09:34:40 am »
So I have just got to say Sparx Systems has always been great at providing support. They usually get back to me within 24 hours and often provide workarounds or acknowledge a bug and fix it in a short period of time.

And they even take note of bugs in undocumented features :-)

General Board / Re: Are Relationships Model Entities
« on: May 16, 2018, 09:25:18 am »
Are relationships really 2nd class citizens in EA, purely for display? Or am I missing something?

Sort of.  Having used other tools where they are first class citizens I'm in two minds about whether this is a bad thing.

Bugs and Issues / Re: EA DocX missing after upgrade to Windows 10
« on: May 15, 2018, 07:31:39 am »
EA Sparx 13 and EA DocX worked well in Windows 7.
System crashes caused the upgrade to Windows 10.
Now EA Sparx 13 does not display the EA DocX addin, even though it is installed.

Hi, as a point of forum etiquette could you please start a new thread rather than resurrecting an old barely related thread.  You're more likely to come to the notice of people who can help you like the author of EA DocX.

General Board / Re: The forum has been updated!
« on: May 14, 2018, 09:44:17 am »
I'm guessing that "News" section is not part of any documented release procedure and has been forgotten since the forum was updated.

Fake news.

General Board / Re: Archimate shapes and composition
« on: May 13, 2018, 11:26:17 am »
The visual composition option is also disabled for 'ArchiMate' yes manually placing them is an option, but when there is a provision, was wondering it should be usable.

And yes, Agree with UMLized and we go above and beyond to make clients feel otherwise :)

Arguably a pure UML "ArchiMate" would be more useful to most users, but it would not be interchangeable with other tools.

General Board / Re: Archimate shapes and composition
« on: May 13, 2018, 07:30:38 am »
Isn't this something ArchiMate 3 prescribes?
May be i'm wrong

The ArchiMate notation has visual embedding, which EA already supports.  ArchiMate does not have compartments.  EA's ArchiMate is already too UMLised as it is.

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