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Enterprise Architect => General Board => Topic started by: Svend Erik Nygaard on October 06, 2014, 07:00:00 pm

Title: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text book ..
Post by: Svend Erik Nygaard on October 06, 2014, 07:00:00 pm
Is there an in-depth text book for BPMN with Sparx?
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: Jacob Vos on October 06, 2014, 10:11:49 pm
As far as I know: no.
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: Svend Erik Nygaard on October 07, 2014, 12:12:22 am
Thanks :-/  :-)
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: Ian Mitchell on October 09, 2014, 08:46:30 pm
There is a very large book written by the guys at LieberLieber (aka Sparx Central Europe) which is available in German and English. It has LOTS of detail, so isn't for the newbie user, but it very comprehensive.
see http://www.sparxsystems.eu/resources/ea-training-book/?L=2.
Don't be put of by the title: "Project Management with EA" - it has nothing to do with PM!
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: Ian Mitchell on October 09, 2014, 09:13:19 pm
Oh - and I forgot Peter's excellent 50 EA tricks:  https://leanpub.com/entarch
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: Svend Erik Nygaard on October 10, 2014, 12:59:20 am
Thanks, Ian. But that book doesn't seem to address BPMN (?)
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: Eve on October 10, 2014, 09:03:33 am
If there was a book about BPMN with Enterprise Architect, it would have become very out of date with the release of EA 11.1
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: dimi on October 24, 2014, 06:44:38 am
Why is that?
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If there was a book about BPMN with Enterprise Architect, it would have become very out of date with the release of EA 11.1
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: qwerty on October 24, 2014, 08:27:58 am
I guess that a book written for EA10 would be rather outdated with V11 (I guess because things are handled differently in the UI).

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Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: Eve on October 27, 2014, 09:32:18 am
Version 11.1 was a huge update for BPMN functionality in Enterprise Architect. It's not even about the GUI, it's the difference between naturally producing a nice drawing and naturally producing a working, valid model. The profile was changed in places to allow this, and EA is doing more for modellers.

BPMN export functionality saw lots of work, aiming for for full compliance. BPMN import was added.

Almost everything BPMN specific changed. In my opinion for the better. That's why I say a book about BPMN for EA 10 would be out of date now.
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: MattTaylor on November 03, 2014, 05:46:18 pm
I've just upgraded to 11.1 and I have to say that BPMN now seems very broken! The performance on a local EAP is now far worse than I used to get when logging onto a server in London over a WAN from Sydney.  It has become almost unusable unfortunately.   >:(
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: qwerty on November 03, 2014, 06:26:04 pm
I guess in contrast to Good Job Sparx!!!! (http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1414647656). The poster sits Down Under, so his bits don't have to travel so far ;D

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Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: philchudley on November 03, 2014, 09:50:42 pm
I realise that major changes have been made to BPMN in EA version 11.1

These changes are having major impacts on my clients who have built up extensive BPMN models in EA 10

This is particular acute in the area of re-usability of Pools an Activities, they can no longer model in they way they are used too

I cannot see these major changes reflected in the on-line help (unless I am missing something) and the printed user guide (the pdf) is still stuck in 9.3

It is all very well making changes for the benefit of the modeller, but not much use if the modeller cannot use these changes as they are not documented!

I think we need a Sparx Webinar on the new BPMN in EA 11.1 ASAP

Cheers

Phil
Title: Re: BPMN with Sparx: Is there an in-depth text boo
Post by: Eve on November 06, 2014, 11:44:40 am
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I think we need a Sparx Webinar on the new BPMN in EA 11.1 ASAP
I'm sure it will come. The developers did a demo to the guys who do the webinars recently.

In the mean time: