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Enterprise Architect => Suggestions and Requests => Topic started by: DamonCarr on February 24, 2004, 06:50:17 pm

Title: Design Patterns in Base Product?
Post by: DamonCarr on February 24, 2004, 06:50:17 pm
Do you have plans in shipping support for Design Patterns (say the Gof set) in your next release?

I have the work that was done and it is very helpful but it would be better if it was a supported, integrated feature (at least in my mind).

Regards,
Damon Carr
Title: Re: Design Patterns in Base Product?
Post by: JourneymanDave on February 24, 2004, 10:02:50 pm
Damon, when you say you have the work that was done, are you indicating that you've already downloaded the GoF patterns from the Sparx site and utilized them?  If not, you may want to check them out: http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/uml_patterns.html.  

I wonder though, if you're indicating you'd like to see this implemented on a more integrated functional level inside the interface?
Title: Re: Design Patterns in Base Product?
Post by: DamonCarr on February 25, 2004, 08:40:08 am
I have downloaded those patterns and have been using them in my trial. You are correct. I would like to see these as part of the standard product, with full integration and support from Sparx.

Is that in the plans? I suppose the free add-in is 'ok', but you don't mention it in your on-line help and I think a further level of integration would be excellent, given the fact that in my opinion any serious object-oriented designer needs to be using patterns. If not, they are probably reinventing the wheel and not realizing it.

I personally regard a knowledge of design patterns as a required, essential area in software engineering. I always ask about them when I interview. It is usually: Draw on the white board the abstract factory pattern using a real case you have had. I do this even for C# developers (we are a .NET shop), but if they don't know it that is OK - but many get it pretty close - some nail it perfectly.

For OO Analysts and Designers (who would use your tool the most) that is a deal breaker for my company if they fail that question. Your tool might be the standard for us so this is very important.

Regards,
Damon Carr
Title: Re: Design Patterns in Base Product?
Post by: JourneymanDave on February 25, 2004, 01:32:44 pm
Actually, I'm just another user of the EA product.  But the forums seem to be read frequently by the Sparx guys.  I might suggest giving a more specific example of the integration that would be useful for you.  Like, for example, would you expect to see the GoF patterns available in a menubar item, or on the right-click menu, etc.  

Not that you asked, but since you're eval'ing the product, I'd have to recommend it as a pretty decent option at its price point.  I don't know of any other product that covers as much breadth in the same class, and have a number of my folks working on it.
Title: Re: Design Patterns in Base Product?
Post by: wmac on February 27, 2004, 07:26:43 pm
Sorry to open the topic again.

It seems GoF zip file is removed from sparx website?

I even checked website of the other company and it has database problems.

Mac
Title: Re: Design Patterns in Base Product?
Post by: JourneymanDave on February 29, 2004, 08:12:05 am
wmac, I just checked the link that I used in my earlier post - a couple of msgs above - and still can get to the file.  There's a link to a ZIP file at the bottom-rightmost portion of the screen.  Believe it's labeled GoFPatterns.zip.
Title: Re: Design Patterns in Base Product?
Post by: jkorman on February 29, 2004, 11:56:15 am
Down at the bottom right corner of

  http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/uml_patterns.html#GangOfFour

Jim
Title: Re: Design Patterns in Base Product?
Post by: wmac on March 01, 2004, 05:35:33 pm
God, How is that veeryone except me could see it  :)

JourneymanDave and jkorman , thank you very much. Finally found it.

Regards,
Mac