Sparx Systems Forum
Enterprise Architect => Suggestions and Requests => Topic started by: Makulik on October 27, 2009, 01:47:35 am
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Hi,
I want to propose that at least some of the dialogues in EA should be resizable windows.
E.g. I find it in particular pretty annoying that the dialogues for code generation aren't. I always have to fumble around with the columns to see the full path for the generated files, with isn't really easy using that standard list control.
WBR
Günther
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The Sparxians have already accepted that they need to fix this. (I think Sparxian RoyC effectively said this about a month ago).
However, they seem (not too unreasonably) to expect us users to identify the dialogs we want fixed.
Presumably they want us to indicate the "pain points" so that they can attack the problem in some sort of priority order.
So I suggest, making a formal bug report referencing this topic and we can add the dialogs to this topic as posts - using it as a list and voting process.
Paolo
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Could you identify the post in which I said that? I can't find it using the search.
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Could you identify the post in which I said that? I can't find it using the search.
I may have misquoted you... It was 6:33 am when I said that :)... I didn't go looking. I do recall a Sparxian discussing resizable dialogs in another context. Perhaps they can own up... I know you're interesed in the user experience so I put two and two together and appear to have not got 4!
Apologies,
Paolo
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So anyway, I pointed out where my PITA comes up: Dialogues with list controls, that are likely to contain lengthy column contents as e.g. filepathes.
Maybe I'll send a formal bug report or feature request for this, but I'm not willing at the moment to go through all the dialogues in particular, to check where this will make most sense, and priorize them for changing.
WBR
Günther
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Some posts relating to resizing:
- http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1255390451 Project Integrity dialogue box
- http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1249596512 Manage locks dialogue box
and similar request about the forums
- http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1244494135 Forum usage
(Is there a better way to link interanlly to posts?)
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Yes, it seems that having this feature would help a lot in many dialogues. I tend to claim that it should be done in general for all dialogues containing one or more multi column list controls.
That's the reason why I'm not willing to search through all of them.
WBR
Günther
PS: Vote please ;)
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(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/th_Toolboxnotesobject.png) (http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/?action=view¤t=Toolboxnotesobject.png)
The Notes object from the toolbox is another dialog window for which resize would be useful.
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- http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1202433501/0#8 - Element Usage dialog is not resizable
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Thank's for [size=16]BUMPING[/size][/b]!
What could be the best verbalization for submitting a feature request to EA, without having to priorize each dialogue in particular?
For now I see the following general rules:
Dialogues containing
- multi column list controls
- rich text edit conrols
More ?
WBR
Günther
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I've converted the 4 dialogs mentioned across the forum posts into resizable dialogs:
- Project Integrity Dialog
- Manage Locks Dialog
- Notes Dialog
- Element Usage Dialog
The extra requested functionality (eg context menus for navigating to corresponding elements in the project browser) would be a more significant exercise - so I'd reccomend sending through a feature request for that.
Also if you could advise which resizable dialogs DON'T persist their size when dismissed and reopened, I'll get to fixing them straight away (again a bug report would be appreciated on this one).
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Hi Michael,
Could you consider changing the code generation dialogue ('Generate Package Source Code') also? I didn't mention it explicitly, though it's that one why I have started this thread.
WBR
Günther
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Two more that could be resized ... please
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/GenerateRTFdocumentation.png)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/Setconnectorvisibility.png)
and just for contrast one that already is (note the suspicious similarity to the previous one - same functionality)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/Setvisiblerelations.png)
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Hi skiwi,
I guess that you, very probably, want to have the textbox labeled 'Output to File' to resize with the dialog (following the right edge in LTR mode).
Lets gather some more general rules:
Dialogues containing
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multi column list controls
- rich text edit controls
- text boxes (that contain lenghty text, e.g. filenames)
Does Sparx Systems have UI-design guys employed? May be they should join the discussion?
Just my 0.02 EUR
Günther
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The Generate Package Source Code and Connector Visibility dialogs have both been converted to resizable dialogs.
The RTF Generation dialog will be a much more significant exercise as the controls are all embedded in tabs and there's a lot more of them. It might also be worth submitting a feature request for this one too.
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Hi Michael,
The Generate Package Source Code and Connector Visibility dialogs have both been converted to resizable dialogs.
THX for your support ...
The RTF Generation dialog will be a much more significant exercise as the controls are all embedded in tabs and there's a lot more of them. It might also be worth submitting a feature request for this one too.
I see. Of course I want to send an official feature request for this. My point is to gather some general rules, that should help to elect the dialogs that should be changed that way. So if anyone else has thoughts about this?
We can also follow Paolos proposal, to create a tracked back FR and list the concrete dialogs in this thread.
WBR
Günther
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Thanks
here is another candidate for resizing
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/EALabelvisibility.png)
Set Label visibility
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The Connector Label Visibility dialog has been converted to a resizable dialog. This change should appear in the next major release of Enterprise Architect.
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The Connector Label Visibility dialog has been converted to a resizable dialog. This change should appear in the next major release of Enterprise Architect.
Hi Michael,
Can you confirm the resizable dialogs are sticky. Both in size and position?
Paolo
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The ones I've modified are (and I've included that check in the usability testing).
If you can identify any others that aren't I'm more than happy to look into it for you.
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The ones I've modified are (and I've included that check in the usability testing).
Great! I take it this is a new pattern/idiom for usability - sticky, resizable dialogs?
If you can identify any others that aren't I'm more than happy to look into it for you.
We keep identifying them here?
Thanks,
Paolo
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We keep identifying them here?
Maybe do both: while I'm happy to keep tabs on this thread and implement what's needed in response to it, it's probably a bit safer if you log it through the official channels. That way if I suddenly inherit millions of dollars from a rich relative I never knew I had and am forced to leave work to focus on a life of decadent pleasure seeking, then at least someone will be able to take up the bat.
Until then, I'll keep regularly checking this thread when I can and implementing the recomendations when time allows. 8-)
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(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/ForeignKeyConstraintDialogueBox.png)
Add to that Foreign Key Constraint Dialogue please
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We keep identifying them here?
Maybe do both: while I'm happy to keep tabs on this thread and implement what's needed in response to it, it's probably a bit safer if you log it through the official channels. That way if I suddenly inherit millions of dollars from a rich relative I never knew I had and am forced to leave work to focus on a life of decadent pleasure seeking, then at least someone will be able to take up the bat.
Until then, I'll keep regularly checking this thread when I can and implementing the recomendations when time allows. 8-)
That happens to me all the time. I just keep working. :o
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(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/Setdatabaseobjectstoimport.png)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/Reverseengineeringprocess.png)
Please consider making these dialogue boxes resizable.
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Here is another candidate for resizing:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/ImageManager.png)
What would also be particularly useful on this box is for the name of the image to be displayed when opening the Appearance context menu for an entity that has an image, because it can be very hard to find (say when I wanted to use the image again).
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Visible relations (7.5)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/copperkiwi/Sparx/VisibleToolboxpages.png)
Please make resizable.
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These all seem to have been fixed for 8.0 (I haven't tested every single one), thanks.
I have started a new thread (http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1277328078/0) for dialogue boxes that should be resizable in 8.0