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Enterprise Architect => Bugs and Issues => Topic started by: miksko on March 08, 2024, 02:33:04 am

Title: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: miksko on March 08, 2024, 02:33:04 am
I'm experiencing an issue with Sparx 16.1 which I never came across with our previous version (15.2). This is the situation:

Not all of my colleagues have made the switch to 16.1 yet. But they who have recognize the problem, so I want to check if it's the same with users outside my organisation.
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: qwerty on March 08, 2024, 03:39:07 am
I know that. Happens when I work on my machine on my eap all alone - sometimes. I would guess it's a Mickeysoft issue with Access. Send a bug report or drink a beer. Whatever you prefer...

q.
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: Geert Bellekens on March 08, 2024, 06:07:48 pm
Yes, I've seen that issue as well.
Don't know the cause or a solution.

Geert
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: miksko on March 08, 2024, 06:20:36 pm
Thanks for your replies, qwerty and Geert. (Since it's still working hours I will have to stick to the bug report, qwerty.)
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: skiwi on April 29, 2024, 12:11:56 pm
I too see a similar problem. I can be the only person working in the model, and yet still be told that another person has modified the model and I have to reload.
When I do so I can loose quite a number of changes.
My work around is the old microsoft office one, ctrl-s every time I change something.
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: Paolo F Cantoni on April 29, 2024, 07:06:54 pm
I, too, see a similar problem. I can be the only person working on the model and yet still be told that another person has modified the model, and I have to reload.
When I do so, I can lose quite a number of changes.
My workaround is the old Microsoft office one, ctrl-s every time I change something.
Yes, If you don't save frequently, you can lose stuff.

Paolo
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: PDC on April 29, 2024, 10:00:05 pm
My work around is the old microsoft office one, ctrl-s every time I change something.

Agreed! I learned this habit from Eclipse where Ctrl+S also compiles the code :)
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: BobM on April 29, 2024, 11:25:19 pm
IIRC 16.0 introduced the improved collaboration capabilities like Auto-refresh Diagrams and Auto-Reload changed Diagrams
, there are settings in preferences->general->diagrams for this which by default are off, if you set these you should not have the pop-up anymore.

(https://i.postimg.cc/QNRxh2m0/auto-reload.png)

IIRC as well the 15.1 version was a lot more dangerous of losing work in case someone actually did work on the same diagram simultaniously.
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: qwerty on April 30, 2024, 03:55:21 am
Actually this is about working just for yourself...

q.
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: BobM on April 30, 2024, 04:19:07 pm
The auto reload should fix that

The only reason why I could think of it happening if using multiple instances of EA, or the high sensitivity of some diagrams when someone is navigating an accidentally moving one element a pixel in a different direction.
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: qwerty on April 30, 2024, 06:37:37 pm
That's the point. It happens when using a single instance of EA. One of those "well, it's EA" points.

q.
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: skiwi on May 06, 2024, 02:01:48 pm
IIRC 16.0 introduced the improved collaboration capabilities like Auto-refresh Diagrams and Auto-Reload changed Diagrams
, there are settings in preferences->general->diagrams for this which by default are off, if you set these you should not have the pop-up anymore.


I'm afraid I've had "Auto reload diagrams" set on since I don't know when. [Set in Preferences]
It has made no difference to this problem occurring.

I didn't have auto refresh on so I've now set it on to 7 seconds. [Set from Layout Ribbon > Autorefresh]
I'll see what happens with that. (this appears to be a per diagram setting, so it could be irritating to have to set it for every diagram)
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: miksko on May 07, 2024, 05:58:37 pm
IIRC 16.0 introduced the improved collaboration capabilities like Auto-refresh Diagrams and Auto-Reload changed Diagrams
, there are settings in preferences->general->diagrams for this which by default are off, if you set these you should not have the pop-up anymore.

Thanks for the suggestion BobM. I will try this.

Mikael
Title: Re: Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user
Post by: skiwi on December 11, 2024, 08:48:24 am
I'm seeing this still in v17.
- with Autoreload changed diagrams
- with Auto Save CHanges
In fact v 17 crashed on me while EA was cycling through this message repeatedly after I dragged and dropped mulitple folders on a diagram at once.