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ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« on: August 12, 2015, 08:19:28 pm »
Has anyone successfully managed to import a model in ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format into Sparx EA?  If so how?

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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 09:04:54 am »
I seriously doubt it.

The format has only been finalized for 10 days. While I expect we will support the format in the future it's much too early to expect a working solution.

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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2015, 09:27:18 am »
Thanks for your reply.  Can you make an educated guess at how long it would take?

I want to give an organisation some advice on how they might start modelling for free (Archi) to prove the value and then move on to using more feature rich tools.

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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 11:53:11 am »
You could use the 30 day trial version of Sparx EA to prove the value then you wouldn't have to worry about importing.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2015, 11:53:45 am by phenzell »
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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2015, 11:54:59 am »
Budgetary intervals are longer than thirty days.

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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2015, 01:41:26 pm »
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Can you make an educated guess at how long it would take?
Not really. I'm only passingly familiar with the format, I don't know how complex it is, but I know it isn't derived from any format that EA already imports so our existing importers are unlikely to be possible to adapt to it.

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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2015, 06:52:32 am »
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Budgetary intervals are longer than thirty days.
Depending which edition you want of course but most people go for corporate, so US $239 isn't going to break the bank. Most businesses don't even blink at that cost. 30 days should  be more than enough to help you do a proof of concept and decide if its the right tool for the job.
Just saying people often spend more time and money than they would just purchasing the product.
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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 07:53:27 am »
Oh I'm totally with you that EA is a cost effective tool, but it's amazing the quotes you get from systems integrators and the like to deliver it as a solution.  For example you may have a rule in an organisation that if an application is going to be deployed to more than five works stations it must be packaged for deployment.  Even tho' it's simple to break the EA .msi out of the .exe and load into a deployment tool it's hard to get the engagement down to under 15 person hours of chargeable time.  

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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2015, 08:58:29 am »
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Even tho' it's simple to break the EA .msi out of the .exe
We've saved you a little time then. EA is now distributed as an msi.

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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2015, 09:24:25 am »
Maybe you could have a white paper on your site; why you don't have to charge so many hours to package Sparx EA :-)

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Re: ArchiMate® Model Exchange File Format
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2015, 06:57:05 am »
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Oh I'm totally with you that EA is a cost effective tool, but it's amazing the quotes you get from systems integrators and the like to deliver it as a solution.  For example you may have a rule in an organisation that if an application is going to be deployed to more than five works stations it must be packaged for deployment.  Even tho' it's simple to break the EA .msi out of the .exe and load into a deployment tool it's hard to get the engagement down to under 15 person hours of chargeable time.  
Right see where you are coming from. A "system integrator" that's milking it is the inhibitor. unfortunately you are not alone.  :(
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