Sparx claims inactive diagrams have been changed by other user

[miksko]

I'm experiencing an issue with Sparx 16.1 which I never came across with our previous version (15.2). This is the situation:

• I have created a package with a couple of use cases and diagrams. The package is entirely and no one else works with it.
• I have opened several of the diagrams; one tab for each.
• One of the tabs/diagrams is active and I'm making changes to it.
• I switch to one of the inactive diagrams and am immediately told that changes have been made by someone and that I have to reload the diagram in order to get it in sync with the model.
• If I choose to disregard this prompt, by pressing Cancel instead of Reload, the elements are sometimes locked in position and can't be moved. When that happens, I have to reopen the diagram.

Not all of my colleagues have made the switch to 16.1 yet. But they who have recognize the problem, so I want to check if it's the same with users outside my organisation.

[qwerty]

I know that. Happens when I work on my machine on my eap all alone - sometimes. I would guess it's a Mickeysoft issue with Access. Send a bug report or drink a beer. Whatever you prefer...

q.

[Geert Bellekens]

Yes, I've seen that issue as well.
Don't know the cause or a solution.

Geert

[miksko]

Thanks for your replies, qwerty and Geert. (Since it's still working hours I will have to stick to the bug report, qwerty.)

[skiwi]

I too see a similar problem. I can be the only person working in the model, and yet still be told that another person has modified the model and I have to reload.
When I do so I can loose quite a number of changes.
My work around is the old microsoft office one, ctrl-s every time I change something.

[Paolo F Cantoni]

I, too, see a similar problem. I can be the only person working on the model and yet still be told that another person has modified the model, and I have to reload.
When I do so, I can lose quite a number of changes.
My workaround is the old Microsoft office one, ctrl-s every time I change something.

Yes, If you don't save frequently, you can lose stuff.

Paolo

[PDC]

My work around is the old microsoft office one, ctrl-s every time I change something.

Agreed! I learned this habit from Eclipse where Ctrl+S also compiles the code

[BobM]

IIRC 16.0 introduced the improved collaboration capabilities like Auto-refresh Diagrams and Auto-Reload changed Diagrams
, there are settings in preferences->general->diagrams for this which by default are off, if you set these you should not have the pop-up anymore.



IIRC as well the 15.1 version was a lot more dangerous of losing work in case someone actually did work on the same diagram simultaniously.

[qwerty]

Actually this is about working just for yourself...

q.

[BobM]

The auto reload should fix that

The only reason why I could think of it happening if using multiple instances of EA, or the high sensitivity of some diagrams when someone is navigating an accidentally moving one element a pixel in a different direction.

[qwerty]

That's the point. It happens when using a single instance of EA. One of those "well, it's EA" points.

q.

[skiwi]

IIRC 16.0 introduced the improved collaboration capabilities like Auto-refresh Diagrams and Auto-Reload changed Diagrams
, there are settings in preferences->general->diagrams for this which by default are off, if you set these you should not have the pop-up anymore.

I'm afraid I've had "Auto reload diagrams" set on since I don't know when. [Set in Preferences]
It has made no difference to this problem occurring.

I didn't have auto refresh on so I've now set it on to 7 seconds. [Set from Layout Ribbon > Autorefresh]
I'll see what happens with that. (this appears to be a per diagram setting, so it could be irritating to have to set it for every diagram)

[miksko]

IIRC 16.0 introduced the improved collaboration capabilities like Auto-refresh Diagrams and Auto-Reload changed Diagrams
, there are settings in preferences->general->diagrams for this which by default are off, if you set these you should not have the pop-up anymore.

Thanks for the suggestion BobM. I will try this.

Mikael

[skiwi]

I'm seeing this still in v17.
- with Autoreload changed diagrams
- with Auto Save CHanges
In fact v 17 crashed on me while EA was cycling through this message repeatedly after I dragged and dropped mulitple folders on a diagram at once.