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EA's UML Data Modeling Profile - an OMG standard?
« on: July 26, 2009, 10:39:06 pm »
Is EA's UML Data Modeling Profile an accepted OMG standard? If not, is it one that is currently being considered for acceptance? Are there multiple UML Data Modeling Profiles competing for acceptance as a standard?

If I start using EA's UML Data Modeling Profile extensively, will I be able to automatically migrate my EA data models to the standard that is finally adopted by OMG? In other words, will EA provide a transform for this?

Thanks very much.

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Re: EA's UML Data Modeling Profile - an OMG standa
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 10:40:56 pm »
Search my posts, going back at least a year or two. I've explained where this comes from, some of the limitations of the original work, and some implications for use in tools like EA. The original work did not originate with either the OMG (who control the UML standard) or Sparx.
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Re: EA's UML Data Modeling Profile - an OMG standa
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 04:12:21 am »
In answer to your question Dana, [And anyone else who cares to look this up.]

First, click the Search button - the one between Help and My Center on the upper left side menu. As for posts by «Midnight» containing the exact phrase "data modeling profile" (without quotes). Set the maximum time to go back to all posts. Check the box to return one post per thread.

You will find at least one post that gives the origin in the first half dozed or so returned threads.

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Re: EA's UML Data Modeling Profile - an OMG standa
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2009, 06:44:12 pm »
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In answer to your question Dana, [And anyone else who cares to look this up.]

First, click the Search button - the one between Help and My Center on the upper left side menu. As for posts by «Midnight» containing the exact phrase "data modeling profile" (without quotes). Set the maximum time to go back to all posts. Check the box to return one post per thread.

You will find at least one post that gives the origin in the first half dozed or so returned threads.

David

I admit defeat. Complete and utter defeat. For whatever reason, although I chose your user name, I could not get the search results to limit posts to just the ones you wrote.

Setting the search to be unlimited back in time and specifying "UML Profile", I didn't find anything in the first 100 results (the only results allowed as far as I can tell).

I wonder if you had having better luck with you click the box to search for posts by you?

Anyone had any luck? If so, please post a link to the thread in question.

Thanks.

Dana

« Last Edit: July 28, 2009, 06:45:22 pm by dananrg »

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Re: EA's UML Data Modeling Profile - an OMG standa
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2009, 07:00:04 pm »
Dana,

I think you are looking for this post: http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1213360383/3#3

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Re: EA's UML Data Modeling Profile - an OMG standa
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2009, 08:27:18 pm »
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Dana,

I think you are looking for this post: http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1213360383/3#3

Geert

Thanks Geert. That looks like the one. Reminds me that I need to re-read through old posts I've initiated; so I can benefit from replies I may have not fully understood in the past. Some things you just miss when you don't have enough of a context / framework / knowledge base to hang things on.

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Re: EA's UML Data Modeling Profile - an OMG standa
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 09:09:29 pm »
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Dana,

I think you are looking for this post: http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1213360383/3#3

Geert
Thanks for scouting this out Geert.

Dana,

This might be my fault!

This post is one of the ones I hoped you'd find, but the keyword and options I suggested might have led you astray. While the phrase "data modeling profile" is in the thread it is in a post that you authored. It is not in my reply to the thread. Perhaps the YABB search engine would not bring it up. [But YABB did find several of my other posts where I did use the phrase.]

Meanwhile, while I was sitting at my desk reading Geert's reply, I looked up at a stack of books - I recently moved from my library with the intent of re-shelving them; fortunately I 'parked' them in my office instead - and noticed the book I mentioned in the above-cited thread.

It is: UML for Database Design by Eric J. Naiburg and Robert A. Maksimchuk. My copy is the first printing, dated 2001. I am not aware of any other editions. The ISBN is 0-201-72163-5.

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Re: EA's UML Data Modeling Profile - an OMG standa
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 09:48:13 pm »
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It is: UML for Database Design by Eric J. Naiburg and Robert A. Maksimchuk. My copy is the first printing, dated 2001. I am not aware of any other editions. The ISBN is 0-201-72163-5.
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Thanks David. Found it used for $2.85 + shipping. :-)

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Re: EA's UML Data Modeling Profile - an OMG standa
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2009, 01:29:26 am »
Bingo!

In some ways it was a work in progress when published. Don't be put off by this, as there does not seem to have been further development of the profile. At least nothing that was published. It will give you a pretty good idea of what the design goals of the profile were at the time.

You will also see that the Sparx implementation is pretty good when compared to the original work. In several areas Sparx has taken things beyond what the profile authors defined.

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