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General Board / Re: Character Limit of Class Element Notes Field?
« on: March 13, 2019, 07:06:27 am »
I strip off any formatting by pasting it into Notepad++ first then into the class element. BUT, the text is then hyperlinked to the diagrams.

It seems those users with laptops having only 16GB of RAM or less have this issue, while my 32GB or RAM I do not lock up while scrolling.

A while back, when I started this current contract, I went through the entire text area and did a clean up by copying what was in the text area to Notepad++ and back into the text area. That seemed to alleviate the issues we had back then, but again some users are having this scrolling issue.

Any ways, thanks everyone for the input! Think I will do as suggested and submit an issue report to technical next.

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General Board / Character Limit of Class Element Notes Field?
« on: March 13, 2019, 01:15:01 am »
Good day All,

I'm curious if there is a character limit for specifically the Notes field or area for the Class element. The current client I am contracted with is using a bit of a kludge in order to generate HTML, which is linked from a MS Word document.

The class element contains the titles of processes and uses the hyperlink feature to the diagrams, for reporting purposes. This is all stitched together using a VB macro embedded in the MS Word document. (The Word document is converted to .htm and deployed to a web server, along with the EA generated HTML. The Word.htm is used as a navigational tool.)

The following is their current statistics/totals:
Characters (without blanks): 17,685
Words: 4,094
Lines: 403
Current document length: 18,491

The issue some users are experiencing is while editing, adding additional text titles and hyperlinks or just scrolling from top to bottom, EA locks up, and the error seems to be a memory issue:

The instruction at 0X0...0865B9C0 referenced memory at 0X...025E17FCC. The memory could not be read.

Click OK to terminate the program.
Click on CANCEL to debug the program.

I've communicated to the others that they should not be copying and pasting the title text from applications like MS Word or Excel or HTML web pages, in case it is extraneous characters or formatting, which does cause issues elsewhere in EA. My best guess is this client is exceeding the intended character limit and usage of this text field.

Any input?

Thanks in advance!

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Thank you for the very clear explanation!

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Good day all,

I'm looking for a clear and concise explanation of what the intended purpose is for the business process element or object in the tool box for BPMN 2.0.

We have had and have a current discussion as to how it should be used, it's in our Team Standards Guide, which I refined a bit 2 years ago. I disagree that it needs to be used to represent every single process in our hierarchy, including sub processes and call activities.

My position is that all of these can be represented in higher level diagrams, in groups or 'branches' of a larger 'tree' process hierarchy. I fail to see why anyone would want use them to hyperlink connect to the diagrams representing lower level sub process and call activity, especially with their limited connection shape script. Both the sub process and call activity elements can be used just like the business process element, which then has the advantage of differentiating between a high level process, a sub process and call activity visually.

Thoughts, suggestions, recommendations?

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Thanks Sunshine & KP for the responses!

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Thanks everyone for your input on this, especially the example code!

I may consider the MDG as long-term approach and I was researching that too, as we do want the tagged values added as we either add new elements to current models, or when we create new models. Option b and the script provided may be a current quick solution for now, and yeah I always test this out locally first before moving it to the repository.

Is it possible to edit the existing BPMN 2.0 MDG and add my stereotype there? I started researching that but had to shelve it for now.

Ver.14 vs. Ver13.5 - We are all still on 13.5 and per my recommendation, we will be upgrading only one user and evaluating changes to features and existing diagrams, just like we did for 12 to 13.

As just a side note and possible bug/issue I tried adding my tagged values to a few diagrams that contained only business process icons (representing a group of related processes) by selecting all of them at once and adding the tagged values. At first glance it seemed to work but for one tagged value type Check List, where all tick boxes where checked off resulting in a Complete text value, they changed to 1, 1, 1, 1 when I logged back into the EA project file.

If I delete it from one business process icon, and add it back in it works as intended. So it may not be possible to do a group of elements together like I did, or it's a bug.

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We are using the Business Process element from BPMN 2.0 <<BusinessProcess>>. I have created 4 new Tagged Value Types (for project management/reporting purposes) and would like to add those to all of the existing Business Process elements in the project en masse vs. having to manually add it to each one, as we have 100s of these.

(I may also want to do this for sub process and call activities as well.)


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@ Sunshine & Nizam,

Thank you for your feedback and input. I actually picked up a very basic SQL book over the weekend as that is the direction I was thinking of exploring for not just docs but also charting and other EA features. We'll just need to work through the syntax differences of the two different databases; Progress for the BPM Team, Oracle for the Business Architect Team.

Thanks again for the responses!

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Business Architecture Team
They run a very basic template on the Business Class sub folder, to capture the Name and Notes of the class objects. Notes are are being used as a description of the class object. For example, Agreement class in Agreement sub sub folder.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/sKKsJufywgzVVApeA

The issue I feel, is due to the hierarchical organization and separation by sub sub folder as the class objects in the report are listed first by the sub sub folder and then alphabetically. What is wanted in the report is all classes listed alphabetically, which is currently being done manually as rework.

The BPM group has a similar package structure but we are not limited to elements being listed alphabetically, and use a VBA script to generate documentation.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BhZ5m1GftvUUmedV7

But any ideas on how to print Names and Notes in many layers of packages, and list them alphabetically is welcome.



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I read through the Help but could not locate details on adding .png images to my post. How do I do that? Normally I just copy and paste works on other forums.


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Sections I'm including are Package, Child Package, Diagram. Fields for now are just Diagram.name and Diagram.Notes. For the Class objects, Package, Child Package, Objects or artifacts (I forget at the moment) since they are not creating diagrams, just individual class objects to represent aspects of Business Architecture.

Wanting to keep it simple for a training class I'm developing for total EA newbies.

4th of July here in the States, so I'm off from work. I'll post images tomorrow.

Thanks for the input!

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I've tried numerous times to get a new RTF template for generating reports to include some really basic information. One group is creating BPMN diagrams, with titles or labels of the process diagram and descriptions in the Notes field. Another is creating packages and Class objects with names or labels of the class and also using the Notes field as a description.

We need a solution for this as every attempt at creating a template does not pick up the Notes field for Diagram or Class objects.

Thanks in advance for any and all input!

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Use the link bottom right of this very page.

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Thanks! Going to wait for reply on my last more detailed question, just to make sure this issue is not self-inflicted due to incorrect usage of Call Activities.

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Is the global re-usable process (activity/child diagram) being called, stored outside of the project browser package/folder structure  that you are exporting?   If so that could be the reason it gets dropped.

I was hoping you could elaborate on this a bit more, as you may have identified one cause of our broken link to Call Activity issues.

If we identify an activity or sub process as a candidate to become a Call Activity (global re-usable process), what is the correct usage if it is needed by another higher/lower level process branch?

For example, B.1.1.3.9 is the parent process and contains and uses Call Activity B.1.1.3.9.1. As modeling progresses into other branches, we discover the same Call Activity can be used by parent processes B.1.2.4 and B.1.3.1.1.4.

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No, what is the procedure for completing that?

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