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Close tab on double-click
« on: May 11, 2005, 12:42:41 am »
I use a text editor called UltraEdit.  One feature that I haven't really seen implemented elsewhere is (to me at least :D) REALLY NEAT!

When you double-click on a file tab, it closes the file! 8) 8)

Once you've tried it, you want to do it everywhere!  Perhaps because it's pretty intuitive?  In EA this could be used to automatically close the diagram and so on..

Thoughts anyone?

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2005, 08:25:06 am »
Hmmm. I really don't know whether I want this feature ??? Normally I leave the (diagram) tabs open. Moving the tabs via mouse drag would be a real improvement.

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2005, 10:11:21 am »
Please don't do that :-)
Much for the reason you mention, that the feature really can't be seen implemented anywhere. I would much rather stick with the standards.

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I use a text editor called UltraEdit.  One feature that I haven't really seen implemented elsewhere is (to me at least :D) REALLY NEAT!

When you double-click on a file tab, it closes the file! 8) 8)

Once you've tried it, you want to do it everywhere!  Perhaps because it's pretty intuitive?  In EA this could be used to automatically close the diagram and so on..

Thoughts anyone?

Paolo


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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2005, 12:50:15 pm »
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I use a text editor called UltraEdit....

Have you tried Notepad++. It's free and REALLY nice

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2005, 03:22:29 pm »
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Please don't do that :-)
Much for the reason you mention, that the feature really can't be seen implemented anywhere. I would much rather stick with the standards.

Bruno


There's a standard for double-click on tabs? ???

(I'm more than prepared to be hoist by my own consistency petard!  ;D

But also... A _foolish_ consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." (emphasis added) - Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Also, I may not have made myself clear enough by "use it everywhere" I meant use close on double-click anywhere there is a set of files or artifacts selectable via tab controls.

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2005, 02:07:30 am »
Alternatively, an [X] icon/button on each tab could allow closing of the tab in a well-defined, standard way.

I used to be a fan of the Windows ::) Interface Guideline standard  - Lotus Notes :'( is what you get if you don't follow some well-established rules !

http://www.mivec.co.uk/lotus_notes/
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Re: Lotus Notes
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2005, 05:38:48 am »
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I used to be a fan of the Windows ::) Interface Guideline standard  - Lotus Notes :'( is what you get if you don't follow some well-established rules !

Don't tell me you're another poor bugger who has to use Lotus Notes - I've had to use it for the last (nearly) two years. :'(

Some quotes I came across shortly after starting to use Lotus Notes:
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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2005, 07:16:42 am »
Mike, Paolo,

I feel your pain!
And to think that Microsoft recently bought the guys that designed Lotus Notes!

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2005, 07:17:14 am »
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Alternatively, an [X] icon/button on each tab could allow closing of the tab in a well-defined, standard way.

Except (as far as I'm aware) it's not a standard to have additional buttons on the tab controls themselves.
What I like about the UltraEdit approach is (again, as far as I'm aware) there's no standard for what double-clicking a tab control means and what they've decided to do with it seems pretty natural.  This is evidenced by the fact I keep double-clicking tab controls in other applications to close the document window!

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2005, 07:19:32 am »
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Mike, Paolo,

I feel your pain!
And to think that Microsoft recently bought the guys that designed Lotus Notes!

Bruno,

Surely you jest? :o

Open Office.... Where's my copy? ;D

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2005, 11:30:53 am »
Well, in MS OneNote for example, double-click on the tab means that I start editing the tab's (and therefore the document's) name. In EA's case that would correspond to renaming the diagram.
The very same thing happens in MS Excel too (clicking on tab will start editing the name of the worksheet) etc.

I am happy with the way EA reacts to double-clicking on the tabs (i.e. not at all :-) ), but should there be any change, I would vote for consistency with MS Office.

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Except (as far as I'm aware) it's not a standard to have additional buttons on the tab controls themselves.
What I like about the UltraEdit approach is (again, as far as I'm aware) there's no standard for what double-clicking a tab control means and what they've decided to do with it seems pretty natural.  This is evidenced by the fact I keep double-clicking tab controls in other applications to close the document window!

Cheerz,
Paolo


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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2005, 11:33:51 am »
Paolo,

I do not jest, I shudder in fear!

http://searchdomino.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid4_gci1066769,00.html

The software maker said on Thursday it would buy the closely held Groove, a company in which Microsoft had already made an investment of $51 million. Terms of the deal, which will close in the second quarter, were not disclosed. Its founder, Ray Ozzie, a creator of IBM's Lotus Notes software, will become a Microsoft chief technology officer, focusing on communication and collaboration software, the company said.


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Bruno,

Surely you jest? :o

Open Office.... Where's my copy? ;D

Paolo

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2005, 03:13:10 pm »
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I am happy with the way EA reacts to double-clicking on the tabs (i.e. not at all :-) ), but should there be any change, I would vote for consistency with MS Office.

Bruno

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2005, 10:33:14 pm »
Yes, until the Microsoft truck's steering wheel is taken over by the Lotus Notes guy, and the new standard for closing a document will be double-clicking it's tab, while holding left CTRL key and pressing space key repeatedly with your right hand, but not on Thursdays...

... but I digress :-)

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Ah.. yes, I'm getting old and forgetfull...
Here in Australia, where we drive on the left, we have a saying:  "Give way to the right and Trucks!" ;D

I concede to the Microsoft truck... :)

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Re: Close tab on double-click
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2005, 10:48:29 pm »
Ancient memories...

F7....
(thinks) "d*amn, it's Shift-F7"
Shift-F7
"Are you sure you want to exit?"
Yes
"Are you really sure you want to exit?
YES
"This is the second last time I'm going to ask you - are you positive you want to close WordPerfect?"
YESYESYESD*MMMITYES
"Press F10 to confirm quit"
Ctl-Alt-Del  >:(


Now, that was a UI standard!

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