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floating licence concurrent users and read-only
« on: October 24, 2005, 02:51:01 am »
We are considering which version of EA to purchase, Corporate seems the most suitable, but whether to use floating licences?  I presume we'd need to install EA on the machines of all users*, but EA will only run if there is a licence key available?  I don't suppose there's a way of providing read-only access if a licence key isn't available?

* I take it EA isn't a client/server app?  Shared access to the project file or DB repository, but doesn't rely on a server executable to run?
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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-onl
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2005, 03:10:33 am »
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We are considering which version of EA to purchase, Corporate seems the most suitable, but whether to use floating licences?  I presume we'd need to install EA on the machines of all users*, but EA will only run if there is a licence key available?  I don't suppose there's a way of providing read-only access if a licence key isn't available?

* I take it EA isn't a client/server app?  Shared access to the project file or DB repository, but doesn't rely on a server executable to run?
EA_Lite provides read-only access See the Web Site for details...

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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-onl
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2005, 05:17:32 am »
Thanks for replying.

So we'd need to install EA_Lite instead of EA for users that don't require write access.  It isn't a case of 'sorry no licence key available, but you can have read-only access until a licence key is released'.
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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-onl
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2005, 02:09:02 pm »
This would be a good enhancement for Sparx to consider: when a a shared key is unavailable allow EA to come up in View-Only mode.

We have a shared sever and so far, fortunatley, have never run out of keys. My concern is that a team need to view a model for a review and not have a license for them at that moment.

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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-onl
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2005, 03:43:42 pm »
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This would be a good enhancement for Sparx to consider: when a a shared key is unavailable allow EA to come up in View-Only mode.

We have a shared sever and so far, fortunately, have never run out of keys. My concern is that a team need to view a model for a review and not have a license for them at that moment.
In the mean time, keep a copy of EA_Lite at the ready... ;D

You CAN run both on the same machine, just be careful with install location and shortcuts.

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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-onl
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2005, 12:39:58 pm »
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In the mean time, keep a copy of EA_Lite at the ready... ;D

You CAN run both on the same machine, just be careful with install location and shortcuts.

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Yes, I can, but in our organization we have the tool installed on a number of machines in conference rooms and terminal servers, and used off-and-on by about 50 developers of a wide spectrum of temperments. Getting them to bounce between the versions is a less-desirable option than to have the software come up in view mode.

Moreover maintaining multiple applications is someplace I don't want to go. Since EA is a non-standard (i.e. "non microsoft") application it is not supported by our infrastructure group. Adding support of another application to my unplanned responsibility list is something neither my boss nor I want to do.

Call me lazy, but the fix seems fairly straightforward...

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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-y,
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2005, 01:58:34 pm »
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Call me lazy, but the fix seems fairly straightforward...

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I'm not disagreeing with you.  It's just that the "mills of God grind slow, the mills of Sparx (appear) slower..."  ;D

Also, some changes appear conceptually easy, but due to prior architectural decisions, are actually harder than they should be.  HINT: Why did Sparx go to the trouble of creating a new read-only application?   Presumably, because they had to.  Something in their internal architecture inhibited the "simple" suggestion you and I would have proposed.

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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-onl
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2006, 06:19:16 am »
It would be _very_ helpful to have a read-only access mode in the full EA version. It should (imho) be on a per project basis, so that it would allow me to give certain users (and groups) only read access in a designated project. There are so many permissons that can be granted (or revoked), why not a general "edit model" permission.

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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-onl
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2006, 06:41:19 am »
Can't you simply pass a recent r/o copy of the repository to those users? Or you use EA's security mechanism.

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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-onl
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2006, 07:06:53 am »
Hi Thomas

No, I don't think so: It's a repository-based shared model and some people (who do work with local EA fiels and the full version) should just read in the shared model.

The EA security meechanism doesn't offer a read.only setting, you can only use an SQL server read-only user, which then present the user with a great number of useless SQL server warnings and make EA almost unusable for him (in addition to making him/her feel  themselves responsible for the errors, which they definitely aren't).

What do you think?

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Re: floating licence concurrent users and read-onl
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2006, 12:18:41 pm »
Sounds reasonable. Another guess: could a versionig system be used to achieve what you want?