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mikewhit

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Re: Feature v.s. requirement
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2007, 08:51:20 am »
Pragmatic: Deliver what they'll pay for. Might not be the same as what they want or need.
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Re: Feature v.s. requirement
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2007, 11:06:59 am »
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Pragmatic: Deliver what they'll pay for. Might not be the same as what they want or need.


Even more pragmatic: deliver what they'll pay for today, and what they won't sue you for in the future.

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Re: Feature v.s. requirement
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2007, 02:02:30 pm »
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Even more pragmatic: deliver what they'll pay for today, and what they won't sue you for in the future.

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Took the words right out of my mouth...

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Re: Feature v.s. requirement
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2007, 12:50:10 am »
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deliver what they'll pay for today, and what they won't sue you for in the future.


Is this what's writ in large lettres on Geoff's wall???  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Feature v.s. requirement
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2007, 01:14:39 am »
Read the small print:
Settlement of invoice in full implies acceptance of project deliverables according to contract.
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Re: Feature v.s. requirement
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2007, 01:51:45 am »
Even smaller print:

[size=10]ANYTHING, Mr Project Manager, you say in a project meeting will cause an immediate and priority 1 level event: ChangeRequest(<insert $$$ here)[/size]

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"It is not so expressed, but what of that?
'Twere good you do so much for charity."

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Re: Feature v.s. requirement
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2007, 04:42:55 am »
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Clue: Deliver what the b@st@rds "want", not what they "need". The science is in manipulating that which they "say" they want, into what they "mean" they want.  

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bruce

Disagreed. In doing this you replace one set of features with another set of features that you think fulfil the customers *need* better than the set of features the customers originally wanted. You implicitely refer to the requirements anyway, so why not work them out with the customer?

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Blooddy hell! thet was ret too obscure for even me, leddie.  I just meant that "we" have no right in determining what the user really "needs" just that they have goal to achieve.

That's not what I meant.

I don't claim the right to declare what the customers needs. What I quoted was from a customer, not from my company that was supposed to deliver the system. The customer - with a wink and smile - simply hinted at the fact he was very well aware of his inability to properly define his needs and talked in features instead. He basically asked us to translate them for him into proper requirements. And we did. With his help.

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Its our job to (somehow)understand that goal and make it easier for them to achieve it.

Agreed on that one.

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