7.1 beta feedback

[Paolo F Cantoni]

[  ] Render formatted notes should also be a diagram option and a system option.

Paolo

[Jan ´Bary´ Glas]

Some identifiers - such as the names of requirements and responsibilities can be very long.  They should probably also have formatted text abilities.

Paolo

Yes. I've just found out. I agree.

[«Midnight»]

[  ] Render formatted notes should also be a diagram option and a system option.

Paolo

Absolutely!

There is simply no future in asking us to turn this on for everything!

The system level is vital of course. But I agree that diagram-level needs to be there too. Even if you only want to do this on a single diagram, setting it on a busy diagram would be impractical now. If the diagram were under development things would go down the drain fast.

Of course the diagram setting would take precedence over the system setting, and the element setting would override all.

David

[Paolo F Cantoni]

The Render formatted notes check box on Show feature visibility [CTRL+SHIFT+Y} does not stick.  So the formatting doesn't show on screen.

Figured it out - a prime example of [size=16]EAUI[/size][/b]!

The [  ] Render Formatted Notes checkbox in the Feature Visibility dialog is a separate checkbox from the [  ] Notes checkbox and enabled - which under normal UI design rules implies it is independent.

I have <Diagram Context Menu>|Properties...|Elements|Show Compartments|[  ] Notes checked - which (you'd think) might imply that if I do a <Element Context Menu>|Set Feature Visibility  [CTRL+Sift+Y] and open the Feature Visibility dialog, the [  ] Notes checkbox would be marked - but that's another EAUI story...

The [  ] Notes checkbox is not marked and attempting to mark the [  ] Render Formatted Notes checkbox will not "stick"!

However, if the  [  ] Notes checkbox IS marked, then marking the [  ] Render Formatted Notes checkbox will "stick" and the Notes compartment will be rendered appropriately!

Interestingly (and further EAUI!), if you subsequently unmark the [  ] Notes checkbox, then [  ] Render Formatted Notes checkbox is disabled - indicating that it is NOT independent!

Can anyone suggest a rationale for this EAUI behaviour?  <- Rhetorical question, !

Consistency, Consistency, Consistency! ^TM

My related points about these options being more Global is EVEN MORE pertinent in the light of this observed behaviour!

"Gob-smacked"
Paolo

[philchudley]

Not so much a fault, more like a request. In the new RTF enabled notes feature, if a numbered list is used, then it cannot be interrupted with non-numbered lines and then the list continued. For example, here is a simple Use Case scenario using the numbered list. This scenario (copied from EA 7.1) indicates where alternate paths may exist:

1)The use case begins when the Customer adds an item to the cart
2)[ALTERNATE] Create Cart
3)[DATA] productCode
4)[DATA] quanity
5)System creates an Item using the product code and quantity
6)System checks the quanity on hand using the product code and quantity
7)System adds the item to the cart
8)[ALTERNATE] Insufficient stock
9)Use Case ends

If I remove the line numbering from the lines with [ALTERNATE] and [DATA], the result is

1)The use case begins when the Customer adds an item to the cart
[ALTERNATE] Create Cart
[DATA] productCode
[DATA] quanity
1)System creates an Item using the product code and quantity
2)System checks the quanity on hand using the product code and quantity
3)System adds the item to the cart
[ALTERNATE] Insufficient stock
1)Use Case ends

What I would like to happen is:

1)The use case begins when the Customer adds an item to the cart
[ALTERNATE] Create Cart
[DATA] productCode
[DATA] quanity
2)System creates an Item using the product code and quantity
3)System checks the quanity on hand using the product code and quantity
4)System adds the item to the cart
[ALTERNATE] Insufficient stock
5)Use Case ends

That is "Continue Numbering"

[«Midnight»]

Thanks Phil,

But in future, please try to post to a single thread. In a case like this, at least let us know that the 'feedback' post is a duplicate.

This will help us coordinate discussion. Things having to do with your specific problem should go to the thread you've dedicated to that issue.

David

[Thelonius]

Beta bug report page has now been added, here: http://www.sparxsystems.com/registered/reg_bug_report_beta.html

May be a good idea to expose this url on the main registered users page: http://www.sparxsystems.com/registered/index.html

I can't see it there - unless my eyes are getting worse ...

Thanks

Jon

[thomaskilian]

I simply added a temporarily bookmark in my browser.

[«Midnight»]

Jon,

The link is specifically for bugs in the beta. Since not everyone will download the beta, and bug reports for the core product still need to be correctly routed, the links are different. To avoid confusion Sparx has placed each link on its appropriate page.

In either case - registered user downloads or beta downloads - you have to know where the page is to get the product in the first place, the bug report links are easy to find since they can be located while navigating to the download page for that product.

David

[Ronaldo Juliatto]

Hi, people

I have not tested EA 7.1 much. However, I have a question regarding to the text formatting in notes: how will the users of earlier versions see the formatted notes in a repository edited by EA 7.1? If a user of an earlier EA version edits the notes, will the formatting be lost?

I ask this because our environment uses different versions and we always have this kind of problem.

Thanks a lot

Ronaldo

[thomaskilian]

Good question with two possible answers:
a) it's not backward compatible
b) (more likely) they will see unformatted HTML tags.

You could try out. Create a model with 7.1 and open it with 7.0 (e.g. the viewer). Probably Sparx should look at this if a) is not obligatory.

[Jan ´Bary´ Glas]

b) (more likely) they will see unformatted HTML tags.

This one is correct. I can see it, because I have both versions installed, you may find it helpfull as well.

1.Copy your EA program files in another place e.g. /EA7_0
2.Make a shortcut for this version
3.Instal new build in your usual place (pick uninstal, it is ok)
4.use either version

IMPORTANT: this is probaly not supported behavior ;-)

[Oliver F.]

See my post at
http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1203500120

I am unable to drag or drop elements from the project browser to a diagram which worked a few days ago.
No issue with 818 though.

Oliver

[thomaskilian]

Had the same issue (reported) but wasn't reproducible.

[Oliver F.]

Had the same issue (reported) but wasn't reproducible.

Here it was reproducible in a way that even after several removal and reinstall sessions it still was present *sigh*

Oliver