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Detaching diagrams from main view?
« on: March 19, 2010, 08:57:37 pm »
Hi!

This is basically a mixture of a question and an FR depending on the result of the question :)

Quite often, I'd like to detach tabs from the main window such as diagrams or the RTF viewer e.g. to place it on a second display. This works with every view except the main view.

Every view/window has the functionality of movable, detachable tabs except the main view.

So why not use the same UI component for the main view as well?

You could drag elements from one diagram to the other.

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Jan

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Re: Detaching diagrams from main view?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2010, 12:14:10 am »
Welcome at the border of the "Mußtopf". As alternative to a tedious forum search grab Takeshi's Addin from the Community Page.

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Re: Detaching diagrams from main view?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2010, 12:24:31 am »
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Welcome at the border of the "Mußtopf". As alternative to a tedious forum search grab Takeshi's Addin from the Community Page.

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Hi...uhm...I'm not exactly sure what you tryto tell me with the "Mußtopf" :) but...
Maybe I forgot to say, that I have already installed Takeshi's add-in. But, that's not exactly what I meant.

This add-in is just a work-around. What I mean, is the ability to complete detach and thus opening multiple editable diagrams in separate windows. The add-in only opens a rendered version as an image.

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Re: Detaching diagrams from main view?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2010, 04:05:15 am »
What I mean is that many others have asked for this feature in the past. Just abandon all hope to ever see it.

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Re: Detaching diagrams from main view?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 06:52:10 pm »
Ah, OK...now the Mußtopf makes sense! :)

But if some many wanting this feature, I think it's good to bump the topic it from time to time :)

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Re: Detaching diagrams from main view?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 07:46:55 pm »
Maybe. It's also not impossible that a stone will fall upward. But it's very unlikely. This window thingy is one of quite some design flaws in EA. If you look at this tool's history you will see that it has once been developed as an MS-Access application (just speculating here...). So to design the tool itself there has not been any UML tool around. Now EA is still a bootstrap loader and Sparx is obviously not willing to build a real tool (redesign). That might also be our luck as such a tool would probably cost a multiple of the current tool. So we desperately live with EA as it is. It's not too bad at all. In the valley of the blind the one-eyed is king.

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Re: Detaching diagrams from main view?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2010, 08:08:18 pm »
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Maybe. It's also not impossible that a stone will fall upward. But it's very unlikely. This window thingy is one of quite some design flaws in EA. If you look at this tool's history you will see that it has once been developed as an MS-Access application (just speculating here...). So to design the tool itself there has not been any UML tool around. Now EA is still a bootstrap loader and Sparx is obviously not willing to build a real tool (redesign). That might also be our luck as such a tool would probably cost a multiple of the current tool. So we desperately live with EA as it is. It's not too bad at all. In the valley of the blind the one-eyed is king.

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:o Wow, there's a poet amongst us :)

At least since forrest gump, we know that rain can fall upwards! So i'm still optimistic. But I agree with your (speculative) analysis and I also fear that if it would be a very easy task to port the main window code to detachable windows, they probably would have already done it when they introduced dockable windows in the first place.