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isDerived and Property String Support
« on: August 25, 2005, 08:37:35 pm »
Please provide support for Property Strings as defined in the OMG UML 2.0 specification.  subsets, redefined, union, ordered, bag, sequence ought to be predefined.  These strings ought to appear on the diagrams within curley braces and have their own controls on the property forms.

Similarly, please provide support for IsDerived=true attributes on associations and elsewhere as specified in the UML spec.

Per the EA help file, tagged values are for information not directly supported in UML and therefore should not be used for Property Strings.

As EA users begin to take advantage of the new Composition Model in UML 2, the derived flag and property strings will become more important.
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Re: isDerived and Property String Support
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2005, 10:23:55 pm »
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Please provide support for Property Strings as defined in the OMG UML 2.0 specification.
Jim,

Don't forget to also send a formal request to the support email address.

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Re: isDerived and Property String Support
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2005, 04:39:54 am »
I've sent a formal request via the 'Request a Feature' function on their web site.

Care to add your voice to this request?  ;D
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Re: isDerived and Property String Support
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2005, 05:54:21 am »
FWIW  ;D,
It does have my vote.  However, the IsDerived Property should be on just about everything...

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Re: isDerived and Property String Support
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2005, 06:25:34 am »
Agreed, but if it isn't in the UML spec, I doubt that we will get it.  We have it on parts, I'd be happy to get it on connectors.  Then I can complete a paper I'm developing on composite classes.

Think I'll check with my friends in the Rose community to see how property strings and derived elements are handled there...

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Re: isDerived and Property String Support
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2005, 08:08:34 am »
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Agreed, [size=13]but if it isn't in the UML spec, I doubt that we will get it. [/size] We have it on parts, I'd be happy to get it on connectors.  Then I can complete a paper I'm developing on composite classes.[size=13][SNIP][/size]
LOL, ;D

Sorry Jim, but that statement shows you're still a newcomer to EA... (no offence meant)

Half of UML 2 ISN'T in EA and half of EA isn't in UML 2!  ;)

More seriously though, the general sentiment in the forum (correct me if I'm wrong) is that EA must support UML , but can extend it where appropriate.  In fact, the addional stuff I mentioned above (plus the fact that EA is repository based) is the reason I chose it over the Lithuanian product. ;)

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Re: isDerived and Property String Support
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2005, 09:38:01 am »
Paolo;
No offence taken.  I'm a semi-retired IT developer/manager who has been in the profession since 1968.  I've always been on the bleeding edge of technology and now I'm moving into teaching advanced Comp Sci topics at the local college for the fun of it.  I'm also demonstrating that the best way to learn is to teach.  ;D

Yes, I am new to EA as I'm evaluating it for use in my classes.  It is a good tool for that, but it does need some polishing and I'll need to have a really good grip on its use in various application design circumstances.

I appreciate all the help you've given me...
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Re: isDerived and Property String Support
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2005, 09:54:25 am »
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Paolo;
No offence taken.  
[size=13][SNIP][/size]

I appreciate all the help you've given me...
Phew!!!  ;D

While I'm in off-the-wall mode, I note your signature line.

In IT, that hasn't been my experience...  If I had that line it would read:
"In the land of the blind, the one eyed man sees the disaster coming!"  ;D

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Re: isDerived and Property String Support
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2005, 03:52:41 pm »
:o I always thought it were winks. Now I know you closed your eyes in horror ;)

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Re: isDerived and Property String Support
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2005, 04:53:23 pm »
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:o I always thought it were winks. Now I know you closed your eyes in horror ;)
Exactly so!
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