How to tell reflexive relation in shapescript

[Paolo F Cantoni]

Over the decades, because EAUI places the labels in different positions depending on whether the relationship is reflexive (points to self) or not, I've tried to figure out how to be able to tell if a particular instance youare "shaping" is reflexive or not - all to no avail.

Is it possible?  If not, then surely a new connector property is needed.

TIA,
Paolo

[Eve]

If my memory serves me correctly...

There used to be an issue with shape scripted labels because reflexive connectors combined the top and bottom labels for each position. As you state, a shape script couldn't detect this and some information wouldn't be shown.

However, in response to bug reports (possibly yours) EA was changed so that if a shape script overrode any label, a reflexive connector would revert to drawing all six.

So, it shouldn't be necessary to do anything special for reflexive connectors now.

[Paolo F Cantoni]

If my memory serves me correctly...

There used to be an issue with shape scripted labels because reflexive connectors combined the top and bottom labels for each position. As you state, a shape script couldn't detect this and some information wouldn't be shown.

However, in response to bug reports (possibly yours) EA was changed so that if a shape script overrode any label, a reflexive connector would revert to drawing all six.

So, it shouldn't be necessary to do anything special for reflexive connectors now.

Thanks Simon,

but I'm  not clear on the meaning[/iof your response...  

I want to suppress the stereotype <middlebottomlabel> on non-reflexive and <middletoplabel> on reflexive.

How do I do that?  Your response (as I understand it) would imply all the labels would be visible on reflexive form.

Are you saying that I should suppress both the <middlebottomlabel> and <middletoplabel> and then print the stereotype in one or the other regardless?

Paolo

[Eve]

How about this?

If you want to suppress <middlebottomlabel> on non-reflexive, that's the same thing you want to suppress for reflexive.

On a related note, the best/recommended way to suppress a label is to define an empty shape.

shape middlebottomlabel
{
}

[Paolo F Cantoni]

How about this?

If you want to suppress <middlebottomlabel> on non-reflexive, that's the same thing you want to suppress for reflexive.

On a related note, the best/recommended way to suppress a label is to define an empty shape.

shape middlebottomlabel
{
}

NO, I don't want to suppress the middle bottom label, I want to suppress (the visibility of) the stereotype name on (say) the association.  I can't just say stereotype.visible=false, I have to say suppress <middlebottomlabel> (for non-reflexive) and suppress <middletoplabel> for reflexive.

If I suppress <middlebottomlabel> only, both reflexive and non-reflexive stereotypes are suppressed.  However, if I suppress  <middletoplabel> only - which should be logically equivalent, the <middlebottomlabel> is still visible!  EAUI!

Paolo

[Eve]

Apply a stereotype called nostereotype to a reflexive and non-reflexive association. Go into the stereotype editor and apply the shape script I provided (nothing more, nothing less.)

Then come back here and tell me what happened to the stereotype label.

[Paolo F Cantoni]

Apply a stereotype called nostereotype to a reflexive and non-reflexive association. Go into the stereotype editor and apply the shape script I provided (nothing more, nothing less.)

Then come back here and tell me what happened to the stereotype label.

My last post WAS the result of doing (the equivalent of) JUST that!  The only element in the shapescript was the
shape MiddleTop/BottomLabel  //Name changed as required
{
}

That's why I said what I said.  It's the result of empirical evidence.

FWIW, I'm running build 1215.

Paolo

[Eve]

Then define "the equivalent of". My post was the result of doing "exactly" that.

[Paolo F Cantoni]

Then define "the equivalent of". My post was the result of doing "exactly" that.

The name of the stereotype was "XXXX" not "nostereotype". I was using an Association.

My point is that setting the shape to MiddleBottomLabel does as you said.  However, setting it to MiddleTopLabel doesn't - and in my view they should be equivalent - since we're suppressing labels, not stereotypes.

Unless I've missed something.

Paolo

[Eve]

However, setting it to MiddleTopLabel doesn't

There's the difference I was looking for. I didn't try suppressing the top because your example was suppressing the stereotype.

It doesn't appear to separate the two labels unless the bottom one is overridden. My personal opinion is that it's a bug, but it won't get any kind of priority for a proper investigation unless it's reported.

[Paolo F Cantoni]

However, setting it to MiddleTopLabel doesn't

There's the difference I was looking for. I didn't try suppressing the top because your example was suppressing the stereotype.

It doesn't appear to separate the two labels unless the bottom one is overridden. My personal opinion is that it's a bug, but it won't get any kind of priority for a proper investigation unless it's reported.

No Probs - at least we're getting the same behaviour.  Had me worried for a minute!

I'll report the bug in due course - it's not that pressing for me either at this point.

Thanks again for your assistance.

Paolo