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Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no dou
« on: November 09, 2009, 07:47:02 am »
I don't know about you, but first thing on a Monday morning (yes we are 12 hours ahead of many of you) this kind of think hurts my brain



"Clear check box to hide connector in diagram"

Perhaps it would be better phrased

[highlight]"Set check box to show connector in other diagram"[/highlight]


[size=9]You know - 'accentuate the positive' - 'don't use no double negatives'[/size]

PS trivial I know, but votes welcome

PPS at the bottom is a button showing "Suppress All". Its not quite clear to me if this is simply a way of untoggling all the check boxes (it doesn't check them) or it has a deeper meaning of 'don't show this connector on any current or future diagram'
« Last Edit: November 20, 2009, 01:25:10 pm by skiwi »
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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2009, 09:54:20 am »
All good points, but the command is called "Hide connector in other diagrams" so people arrive at the dialog wanting to know how to hide connectors, not how to show them. [But this doesn't count as a no vote because I don't get a vote!]
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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2009, 09:58:32 am »
Hi Skiwi,

As you know the Sparxians live on planet Sparx.  ;)

I think all you're seeing is a failure of "Google Translate".  Sparxian -> English.  :D

Actually, it might be instructive to get users with other languages than English to comment.  What does their translation say?

But your general point has been supported by me in the past...

Keep it up...

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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2009, 10:01:53 am »
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All good points, but the command is called "Hide connector in other diagrams" so people arrive at the dialog wanting to know how to hide connectors, not how to show them.
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Maybe that's part of the problem.  Perhaps it should be:  Hide/Show Connectors...

The reason is that there is more than one way to hide a connector in a diagram, but (I think) only one way to restore a connector on a diagram after it's been hidden.

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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2009, 11:13:22 am »
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All good points]
Would it be possible then please, to clarify the effect of the "Suppress all button".

I note that the dialogue has no help button.

Note that I wasn't suggesting that the context menu item be changed (although I take and agree with Paulo's point).
My quibble is with the first line (ie instructions) in the pane, viz

"Clear check box to hide connector in diagram:"

There just is no need to make it obtuse.

PS: Just thinking about showing (unhiding) connectors in a diagram, is there some way for an entire diagram to show a list of all connectors that have been hidden?
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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2009, 11:38:22 am »
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Would it be possible then please, to clarify the effect of the "Suppress all button".
It clears all the checkboxes.

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is there some way for an entire diagram to show a list of all connectors that have been hidden?
From the main menu, Diagram > Visible Relations (Ctrl+Shift+I)
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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2009, 11:49:09 am »
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From the main menu, Diagram > Visible Relations (Ctrl+Shift+I)
Neil,

Should you decide to change the Hide Connectors to Hide/Show ...  

Could you consider changing this menu item to Visible/Hidden Relations... ?

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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2009, 07:18:36 pm »
I don't support not renaming the features :P

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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2009, 05:53:41 am »
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From the main menu, Diagram > Visible Relations (Ctrl+Shift+I)

Thanks,
I note that this dialogue box does not have a button to make visible (unsuppress?!) all the relations.

Also curious why one menu talks about relations, the other connectors.

Perhaps the same dialogue could be used for both ...
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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2009, 09:33:45 am »
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Also curious why one menu talks about relations, the other connectors.

Perhaps the same dialogue could be used for both ...
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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2009, 09:44:16 am »
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[Perhaps the same dialogue could be used for both ...
Not really. One lists the diagrams for a connector; one lists connectors for a diagram. Different things.
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Re: Hide connector in other diagrams (don't use no
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2009, 01:26:34 pm »
thanks for putting me right on that
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