BPMN 2.0: Use of lanes and pools

[MiniBlondie]

Hello,

I'm starting with EA 10.
I'm drawing BPMN 2.0 diagram and I confess I'm struggling with the use of Pool and Lane.

When dragging several lanes to a pool, the pool does not autosize. Which means that I have to manually do it. Same when I want to change the lenght of it.
Is there any way to ease this?

Also, I would have thought we could easily tag a Lane as being the child of a Pool. But I can't find something like that in the property.
Are there any clear tutos regarding the use of Lanes and Pools?

Thank you

[qwerty]

AFAIK there is no other way than the manual one for resizing (except you are willing to spend some effort in writing an add-in).

Regarding childhood (also AFAIK) this is done be nesting one into the other in the project browser. There is some option (see the Tools/Options forest) where you can control that docking one element in another will make it its child (so you save the project browser manipulation).

q.

[Geert Bellekens]

There is also a (very well hidden) feature to automatically resize the pools/lanes when adding elements.
From the help:

BPMN 2.0 Diagram Orientation
On a BPMN 2.0 diagram, you can set the flow orientation to horizontal or vertical, or none (the default).
To set or clear the orientation, right-click on the diagram background and click on 'Set Diagram Flow Direction'. Then click on either:
None (the default, no specific orientation set)
Horizontal (diagram flows across the page, Pool and Lane elements occupy the full width of the diagram), or
Vertical (diagram flows down the page, Pool and Lane elements occupy the full height of the diagram)

But it is quite possible that this option was not yet available in v10.

Geert

[qwerty]

Hehe. You already got sparxinated  seeing an endless pool a auto-sized.

q.

[StefanPears]

If you move a lane into a pool it becomes a child. This usually workes fine within EA and can be seen in the project browser. Now resize the lanes so they entirely fill out the pool. Assuming your pool is horizontally you can now select the pool on its left "header and resize it on the marker on the right side and the lanes will resize either. However changing the height is something fuzzy. Sometimes the bottom lane is resized and still fitting the pool and sometimes not ?!

[MiniBlondie]

Thank you all for your help.

What I find annoying is that even when I insert a lane in a pool, as soon as I make a chnage (resize...), the lane is sometimes ejected from the pool.
Also, I wish the Pool would autosize when Lanes are inserted, or that Lane would squeeze inside the pool.

But seen the comments, it's not something which is done by default.

Thanks again!

[Geert Bellekens]

You should consider upgrading.
They have improved BPMN modelling a lot in the more recent versions.

Geert