Re: Forum Upgrade - timezones

[«Midnight»]

Thanks Stuart,

For some reason I decided that link took me to the top of a (possibly long) message, since it was repeated on each post.

I think the point Paolo is making is that (ideally) there should be navigation buttons at both the top and bottom of the page, that these should look the same, and that they should do the same things.

Of course that's all moot, since it's the YABB developers who've made the decisions for us. And since we never had them before, it's not like we've lost anything.

David

[Paolo F Cantoni]

Of course that's all moot, since it's the YABB developers who've made the decisions for us.

David,

I'm not so sure some of these things aren't customizable...

Anyway, one can only ask...

Paolo

[Paolo F Cantoni]

If you direct your eyes to the bottom left hand corner of each post you will see a "Back to top" link. Clicking this link will take you back to the top of the page.

Thanks for that Stuart,

It helps, but as a work-around.  My point (as almost always, is about consistency) why repeat SOME functionality and not others...

Paolo

[«Midnight»]

But not quite!

The Back to top link takes us back to the top of the first post on the page (or perhaps the thread). The top of the first post is at the top of the browser window. On a long thread it leaves us with neither the top nor the bottom navigation buttons visible!

Sigh...

[KP]

You could revert to the keyboard. With Mozilla, the Home key will do the trick.

(Keyboard? Luxury! In my day we made do with a row of switches...)

[RoyC]

(Keyboard? Luxury! In my day we made do with a row of switches...)

Switches? Luxury! In my day we made do with a piece of paper on which we wrote instructions for a man in a white suit and facemask to feed punched card into a metal building, to return to the top of the monitor in 7 days...

And it wasn't the Lone Ranger either! ("Crikey, you MUST be old!")

[«Midnight»]

(Keyboard? Luxury! In my day we made do with a row of switches...)

Switches? Luxury! In my day we made do with a piece of paper on which we wrote instructions for a man in a white suit and facemask to feed punched card into a metal building, to return to the top of the monitor in 7 days...

And it wasn't the Lone Ranger either! ("Crikey, you MUST be old!")

Monitors? Luxury! In my days we asked the man in the white suit for an appointment to reserve the machine that punched the cards, so we could do our own.

Eventually modern equipment became available, and would actually type what we had punched along the top of each card, so we could check our spelling without running (ruining) a compilation.

Monitors indeed. Hah!

[BTW: For a few years I did actually personally own a working Univac 1004 mainframe, with all the 'fixins.' 6 tons of glorious discrete gate diode transistor logic, with the new-fangled program templates - these made placement of the patch cords much easier - to speed programming. The card punch and reader could have put holes in sheet aluminum. Ultra modern, very sleek.

Machine language, that's the real "architecture" in software. Assembler is for wimps!]

[mrf]

Univac 1004? Luxury! You kids don't know how well off you are. A Model 28 Teleprinter was the glory days.

[sargasso]

Ah alright, now we're back here.

IBM 6020, punch cards, coding sheets - submit - deck back(24hrs) - compile job request - 24 hours - syntax error at line 12

Univac 1108 with a med editor, now that was real!

PDP 11-10 and 11-20 and finally an 11-40 with a GT40 scope  - hey hey lunar landar

Burroughs aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgh   I cant even remember the model number  all I can remember is that the 120mB disk drives were about 6 foot high.

<< the revolution called "mini computers" >>
real time OS, coding down to the hardware in FORTRAN!!!


1990 - my first experience with an "IBM PC", may Charlie Chaplin rot in hell.


Lisa someone-or-other by Steve someone-or-other, anyway they had a pretty good idea called something or other that went on to be called "Calc", or  Ixol or Accel or something-or-other.  (Anyway, it convinced every book keeper in the known universe that they knew something-or-other).

1995 Intel takes over the planet. Cray cries.

Bugger, I've forgotten a few.  Wirth et al: the basics of well constructed code (Jensen?)  Oh, and that guy who considered that "GO TO's are harmfull" ... Beyer: Thanks for confusing humanty for at least the forseeable future.  

Oh and that goddam B*ST*RD who invented uselesscases.

ymmv

bruce    

[sargasso]

IBM 6020,


oops  


3060

no 360, 360 I'll get it in a minute

[«Midnight»]

Yes, yes, yes.

But were they yours or did you just borrow time on them? I'm talking about having my own computer.

But the point about the model 28 is good. I remember when we upgraded from the 026 to the 029. That's when the luxury started to soften us up. The slide from there was inevitable I guess.

And look at things today. I can't even count the pixels on my screen. What was wrong with 25 lines of 40 5x7 characters anyway? If you bought in quantity they were barely over $20K apiece. Now that's value!

[Paolo F Cantoni]

I remember when we upgraded from the 026 to the 029. That's when the luxury started to soften us up. The slide from there was inevitable I guess.

026, 029?  

Looksuree!

Wha'boot t't caybles on t't ploogbord of t't 1401 calculatin' printah?

(We had one opposite the IBM 1620, round the corner from the first production PDP-6 in the world at the University of Western Australia)

Paolo
(If you're going to install the first production PDP-6; surely the best place to do it is literally the furthest place on earth from Maynard Massachusetts)

[Thomas Mercer-Hursh]

Ah alright, now we're back here.

Well, getting there, anyway.  For me it was an IBM 7094 for a while until I moved to a Burroughs B5500, then B6500 writing code in Tranquill and Gleipnir on a simulator for the Illiac IV, which was still a twinkle in Dave Kuck's eye.  Then B3500, Sigma 7, some funny Honeywell thing for LISP, and the IBM 360 before I got to the Univac 1108.

[«Midnight»]

All this new-fangled stuff.

Simply put, if you can't pull the individual gates out and test their parts by hand, it's got to be hyper-modern hokus-pokus. None of that for me, no siree!

And why would you trust anything with less than a farad of capacitance in the power filter anyway? I suppose a surge bar for 6 kW would be an alternative, but my local hardware store is fresh out.

[sargasso]

Simply put, if you can't pull the individual gates out and test their parts by hand, it's got to be hyper-modern hokus-pokus. None of that for me, no siree!

Grace! Grace, there's something wrong. The computer doesn't work.


But seriously, that (that one and the thread) was the best laugh  I've had in ages.

Ah well, back this hyper-modern-jiggy-jiggy-object-stuff I suppose.

thanks guys
I really did enjoy it!

bruce